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Idk about you, guys, but I felt like I was suffocated out of pure desperation. There is no way to talk to Trump (and the same can be said about his supporters). You speak about relevant ratio (death per capita), which reflects how the pandemics is handled, and he argues that death per case is what is relevant! And 'death per case' rate is important for studying the virus and its lethality (it might reflect the pandemics handling only when the health system is overburdened and those who would normally survived couldn't get help).. And I mean, I am no scientist but I intuitively understand all those differences, but I feel helpless trying to explain it to such people like Trump. I feel like a interviewer felt the same. He just couldn't argue with Trump's sheer belief in his righteousness. This is no way to even try to convince such people. They will simple ignore any of your arguments and keep preaching own bullsbit

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